19 Feb 2023 01:05:52We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. PAC is in an exclusive window with the 2 main networks bidding on B10 that expires next week. 159. @MHver3 But when you factor in possible matchups, multiple time zones, and other data there’s a strong belief from media consultants that the 6 PAC schools joining B12 could see their collective value closer to the full $250m yearly that ESPN was willing to pay all 10 in a vacuum @MHver3 Jul 27, 2022 If we receive applications from all 4 of the corners schools (we already have one from SDSU from last year) it’s likely we initially only invite 2 and then wait for tv negotiations to open up before adding whomever the other 2 will be. ACC would like to lock up the pacific coast with WA/OR/Cal/Stanford additions as it would be a huge infusion to ACCN. I’ve maintained that schools are still waiting on the deal to come in before making a decision. We make more than that currently for all of tier3. There’s so much information to pour through and so many moving pieces that B12 leadership alone can’t keep up. 21 Feb 2023 23:32:48 Feb 24. 22 Aug 2022 21:27:34Log in. We currently get about $4m for that same content. Once again I return from a long absence and bring you info. They are going to get the money they want without joining a conference. ”ACC again proposed an aggressive expansion to 20 teams and has been talking with OR/WA/Stanford/and Cal. 1. This helps justify the pro-rata increase for 8 teams. 13. ”“How BIgEast conference’s demise as a power conference is playing a role in Big12’s current thought process regarding expansion, tv contract, and GOR. Likes. Eerily similar to communications the BIgEast put out just before it’s demise right before Pitt/Cuse/WVU/Rutgers/Louisville bolted. Washington State puts up shockingly good TV numbers. ”“@Lake_Cowboy @KDVanderpool We had a good one with TX. Miguel. 4. @MHver3. “Morning tidbits: Fox is done with Pac12 as an entity and has no plans to even bid on a new tv contract. They want no part of unequal revenue sharing. 2. MHver3. Meanwhile ND maneuvered their way to a sweetheart deal with ACC and was able to leave the faltering BIgEast. 2. “Just wanted to pop in and drop off some WVU related info. 5 billion a year with their next contract (and BTN) and will now wait and watch the landscape. read image description. Talks are indeed dead for a merger. “So I was told the proposed breakdown for unequal revenue sharing for PAC. Hearing that GK is telling some of the PAC presidents that he may not have any new developments in the tv negotiations to present at next weeks meeting. @MHver3. Transfer ownership of Pac12 networks to espn. 11/15 schools would have to vote to disband, and that's exactly what would get gobbled up by the BIG10, SEC, and Big XII. 3:14 AM · Jul 24, 2021. 13 Apr 2023 02:07:57 @MHver3 They're all signing a shorter GoR, it's not so much giving up as letting the landscape settle and use the time to build their best case to join on the field. “And hearing that Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal have reached out to the Mountain West to talk about a landing spot. 22 Feb 2023 21:50:26Reposting this again at the request of my source with alternate phrasing: Colorado board will meet Monday to informally poll where votes would lie for leaving PAC. ”“B10 has told Washington and Oregon that they have put expansion on hold indefinitely. Jul 6, 2022. and @TheAPBerry. MHver3 @MHver3. MHver3 @MHver3. “Let tidbit of the evening: Big12 currently has 20 schools in contact with them regarding membership discussions in various phases of progression. SawyerBrown94 @RChalk94 · Jul 20. 19 Feb 2023 01:05:52We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”What did I tell you? No new movement to share with PAC presidents. I did want to take a minute to share a few things though. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Likes. 11. Replying to @Tomkatf14. ”“Got some clarification on those Pac12 bylaws from my regular B12 source: leaving teams only forfeit revenues if they leave prior to August 2024. And they all already know the current numbers. 4:22 AM · Jul 19, 2023. I actually don’t want more western schools. Someone mentioned the Saudis last night on here-might be a good. Feb 21. What I’m hearing on PAC media deal (or lack thereof) from a B12 source based on B12 talks with a PAC school. ”“The first show to drop was Notre Dame and NBC and the whole “shoulder programming” proposal. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Corey Wishnia. Sign up“So my new source just told me some of the terms to NDs offer to the ACC: 7 conference games a year with 4 of them home games, 1st choice scheduling, not signing the GOR for football, and something to do with eliminating the exit fee from the charter. ”10:23 PM · Jul 22, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. It got nasty from what I’ve been told. More interesting news is that OR and UW may not be a shoe-in for the B1G. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Without the additions the show could very well be on the other foot right now. Yormark has a vision. If acc gets it first then B12 may have no need for further expansion at this time outside of maybe the AZ schools (because there is value in those markets) MHver3 @MHver3 GK is currently trying to Frankenstein a mess of a deal with ESPN getting 1 FB game per week at about $5m per game and 3 BB games per week at about $1m per week. (Ralph Freso / Associated Press) Sources say preliminary talks have started on a merger between San Diego State’s current conference and the Pac-12, which is in. Replying to. Would the B12 take them?”Sources telling me B12 plans to extend acceptance to Gonzaga following the NCAA tournament. 19. And they all already know the current numbers. 3. Washington was their next choice. 1:39 AM · Mar 18, 2023. This will be my last tweet for a bit. Oils be basketball/Olympic only additions before that happens though. Appx $75m per year. @MHver3 Big12 is possibly only eyeing 4 of the 6 to stop at 16 for now. AZ too. ACC has special deal with espn to add those 4 at prorata even though it wasn’t built into the contract. If it takes their exit for Cal, Stan, Utah,. Retweets. Huskies have come back to the table. And there are ongoing discussions on how that money could be generated through selling the extra inventory. ”Bedtime snippet: I’ve been exchanging DMs with someone employed at a P12 athletic department. There are some trying to angle SDSU or even Fresno as an alt travel partner for Stanford but the metrics show Cal is actually more desirable to tv partners”Kliavkoff is still trying to leverage more $ from ESPN but they are so far apart (allegedly almost $200m per year) that some at ESPN have told people in the B12 that Kliavkoff seems to be either desperate or cluelessThings aren’t blowing up just yet…BUT…Colorado is having another meeting tomorrow to continue down the road of departing the PAC. ”Log in. Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and one other might be the best move. Things are getting crazy!”“And the endgame is probably 16 teams. “I think what we are seeing is that the deep fractures in the PAC are leading to schools feeling out all options trying to formulate back up plans. (I’m on a mini vacation right now so I haven’t been doing a lot of talking with him the past few days). Too many lower tier schools in ACC that won’t have a home if that conference blows up. Sign up“Tonight’s Big12 vote isn’t to invite schools. Murky version is: ducks are in a row but the can is getting kicked down the road. Sign upSee new Tweets. Sign upThe source that gave me this info said if Apple does pull out of PAC negotiations then it puts PAC in a very bad position and may have to settle for far less money than even the smallest estimates that have leaked. and @Mountaineer_Ste. ”“@IceDevilCA @TheAPBerry I was meaning had the second ACC raid not occurred. Could also mean NBC/B12 won’t happen. The other 6 split the remaining 40% equally. “I’m hearing several Pac12(-2)schools are in complete pandemonium tonight. FOX would be on board for heavily discounted PAC programming but we aren’t there just yet. Yearly scheduling of 1 ACC team per school. Throwing darts at walls still, MHVer3?@MHver3. @MHver3 CU board is in lockstep to pursue B12 membership if GK doesn’t come through with promised deal by June 30th…. My source (who is talking to an AD at a pac school) says the deal with Espn/Amazon is worth $220m a year. 2:52 PM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. ” March 7th. Rumors swirling today that there may be merger talks brewing between Pac12 and Big12 again. 19. I just wish I could get some info from the PAC but that has dried up the past few days. I’m definitely not giving up my CONFIDENTIAL sources. 🤷🏻♂️ I honestly feel sorry for most of the schools in the PAC. Boise. com. Once the ACC declines the ridiculous terms of the offer ND is free to pursue other options. 1. Colorado feels like they are on an island and being pushed out. ”“My source just informed me that Arizona, Colorado, Utah, and Arizona State have applied for membership with the B12. “@DwayneF77 I’ll say it one more time. ”Small PAC tidbit: the unequal revenue sharing model being discussed now would be based on achievement in all sanctioned sports. 26. @MHver3. Clash of Champioms “Bowl” (more on that in next tweet”” “@flugempire @YouTube The numbers are not where the presidents want them. 18 Mar 2023 01:39:09“@PAULHAR16697272 It’s a long story but he held up B12 expanding with FSU and Clemson because he swore he had Notre Dame in the hook to join as well (being friends with Swarbrick). It’s to actively pursue expansion and re-form the expansion committee. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. So that lines up with pretty much every other report coming out except for 1. And several mid tier schools that would be shaky getting a new home as well”“I’m also hearing a lot of people describing espns offer to PAC as a lowball offer. @MHver3. 131. Conversation“Slow day for info and the weekend will most likely be the same, so here’s a quote I thought I’d share for discussion: "Yeah, I know where the money is " Yormark when asked about tv money during an interview with 365 Sports. Oh btw there is an AZ board of regents. 35 seconds to PACmidnight. Do you prefer to move to the B10 for the money that you really don’t need with Phil Knight’s checkbook-where you will play 2nd fiddle to many? Or do you prefer becoming the top dog in the B12 conference?”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. This meeting is supposed to introduce a “new” interested party to possibly sell their Tier 2 package to for a higher rate than what Amazon is offering. 7. 6. CBS and NBC expected to be huge players for the next B12 contract in addition to ESPN and Fox”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ConversationReports that Pac12 is assessing SDSU and SMU are old news that many have known since USC and UCLA bolted. 150 seconds to PACmidnight. “@RChalk94 But Washington and Oregon add $60+ million per year apiece to a tv deal when you look at the data” “As I type this the Arizona schools are discussing exit strategy and AZ is making their case for autonomy to decide conference affiliation (in case they are the only one that gets an invite). I don’t hate the PAC. ” The latest tweets from @MHver3@MHver3 It is expected that tonight, Az and CU leadership will officially sign off on moving forward with officially applying for membership with Big12. ”Just heard from a source that Oregon has reached out to the B12 about potential membership with the condition they have a negotiated out of the GOR if the B10 comes calling. Interestingly enough there is another school in these discussions with Boise that is interested in joining just Olympic sports…”“@tsaundry13 You’ve convinced me. “Also being told that earlier suspicions confirmed. 12:57 PM · Jul 27, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone Sorry for deleting the previous tweet. Pac12 can file an injunction if they choose but it would be a slippery slope if they wanted to do that and suspend those teams. Life has been different since my brothers passing and priorities have changed a bit. Air Force and Colorado State have also been in contact with Kliavkoff. Temporarily making my account public just to help get my info out for whomever may want to read. As soon as I’m allowed to it’ll be up. ”Log in. A playoff appearance by OKST or Baylor or KSU would change the calculus quite a bit. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. The numbers are not where the presidents want them. It would seem inevitable that at some point u will say something… I mean, anything. ”“So ESPN takes more games than the current contractual obligation and uses them in the late window. Retweets. My source says B10 won’t expand until at least new commissioner has been hired but this option was discussed at a recent B10. They could very well join the four south schools in the B12… until the B1G change their mind. The other $5m is from a variety of different T3 revenue streams. Houston and BYU applications are in. “@BobOThomson I mean it’d be a fun game to play on Saturdays 🤷🏻♂️. Power5 (or 4) will most likely have an autobid for their champ after playoffs expand. 2:49 AM · Jul 19, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. It actually decreases it. Likes. Temporarily making my account public just to help get my info out for whomever may want to read. 31 May 2023 12:38:21. Knight felt it was the best outcome for Oregon and the PAC with no B1G offer coming. @MHver3. Taking the four will crush the P12. “RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. Gonzaga better fit for Pac. PAC media: Hearing that no concrete numbers were presented and that the mystery partner that was coming back to the table was ION. . Again they did not have 8 yes votes for either school. ”Hearing that Pac12 presidents have vehemently rejected 100% streaming proposal from apple. Even if espn is trying to call this something else (licensing fee for streaming content)”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Cliff notes of meetings: Colorado will rejoin the B12. Guess the state of AZ to BIG12 has died down though. Gonna say it again for everyone in the back playing with graphs and charts on Excel: Fox has already approved pro rata for the B12 to add specific teams so they will not get “only $20m” they will get the full share. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. MHver3 @MHver3. 30 Mar 2023 18:54:47Gonna say it again for everyone in the back playing with graphs and charts on Excel: Fox has already approved pro rata for the B12 to add specific teams so they will not get “only $20m” they will get the full share. 6:21 PM · Jul 5, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Clash of Champioms “Bowl” (more on that in next tweet””MHver3 @MHver3. Sign upSee new Tweets. Staples: The realignment battle for No. The only 2 schools in the PAC that B12 has had no open dialogue with are the Cali schools. If B10 is still shopping then that means NBC is getting aggressive with trying to get in on their contract and it’s driving $ higher. Taking a small break from sharing. Things have escalated. 19 Jul 2023 04:22:28. That’s all I’ve got. 3:14 AM · Jul 24, 2021. “@ConfCommandos Schwartzwalder wasn’t really a ratings boon after McNabb finished his 10 year career at Cuse though. Current Pac10 members are looking at about $200-$250m per year on the open market. MHver3 @MHver3. ”GK about to get shipped to China. Most of it was in depth financials done by our media consultants. WVU also saw success going from Independent to BIgEast. No football home for Uconn in exchange either. They are content to sit at 16 and wait out Notre Dame. ” We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Quote. Hearing Colorado President and AD will be meeting with BY on campus in the near future. This meeting is supposed to introduce a “new” interested party to possibly sell their Tier 2 package to for a higher rate than what Amazon is offering. 7. Sign upSee new Tweets. ”“@tsaundry13 @CFBKnights The tv deal plus accn money is about $31m per school. I’ll update as I get more info. So not just a. They are looking at 1. 5% each. Memphis and Boise(FB only) are definitely the front runners. Replying to @MHver3. If you start to hear reports of a PAC media offer for $25-28m per school trickle out keep a couple of things in mind: 14 Mar 2023 14:40:40@MHver3 · 1h. @xtmountain. The additional money you see with the total conference payouts includes bowls, CFP, ncaa. MHver3 @MHver3 Hearing from B12 contacts in communication with Pac12 contacts that AZ and Colorado have NOT committed to signing a GOR and will not agree to sign one without a complete deal in front of them that is equitable and on par with B12/ACC. 2. “@AveCope Big12 believes it will be able to offer $36-40m with OR and WA plus control of Tier3 tv rights. But again, aside from Rutgers going to B10, Pitt had the most room for improvement. @MHver3 FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. Oh btw there is an AZ board of regents. “Hearing BY is meeting with a school president from that conference on the pacific coast. “@DwayneF77 I’ll say it one more time. ” @MHver3 Jul 22 How BIgEast conference’s demise as a power conference is playing a role in Big12’s current thought process regarding expansion, tv contract, and GOR. That’s it. Pac12 additions in all sports are priority number 1. Sounds like he expects a number of his current members to go else where. "Hearing that UConn is leveraging for an all sports invite from B12…and BY and networks are listening. twitter. The BIG12 would be stupid to go. @MHver3. MHver3, a Twitter user who posts controversial and speculative tweets about college football, claims that BYU and Houston are the initial targets for the Big 12's. I’m packing it up. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. 239. MHver3 @MHver3. @MHver3. Something new that moves forward and forgets the past. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. But simply never happens. It did ok. ”Log in. Washington has now reached out to the B12 about membership options that include an out of the GOR for B10 membership. OKST has been too one sided lately to be a rivalry-hopefully we can change that. Yearly scheduling of 1 ACC team per school. The ESPN offer wasn’t $25m per school. Grant of Rights required or will come with a clause for reductions assigning each school a percentage of what their worth is to the overall contract. 10 Feb 2023 03:36:01Checked with my source regarding B10 proposing half share for ORWA (per Colin Cowherd). ”“Alright! Got the go ahead to post it. 21. ”“Since everyone is regurgitating Mandel’s garbage today allow me one last time to explain why the ratings don’t matter here and are in fact flawed. Sign up“I’ve got a pretty big scoop to share that I’ve been sitting on for a few days. Likes. No vote-just the general consensus during a call I’m told. Utah athletic director Mark Harlan needs just four words to disarm the Arizona-to-Big 12 narrative. You ready for this? Oregon/Washington 16. I actually don’t want more western schools. If 4 teams get taken from the ACC by the Power 2, there is a good chance FSU is not one of them. What I’m hearing on PAC media deal (or lack thereof) from a B12 source based on B12 talks with a PAC school. Pac12 additions in all sports are priority number 1. 03 Apr 2023 22:41:17Morning tidbit:A very prominent booster for Colorado is now threatening to pull all funding from the school If they do not start to actively seek to get out of the sinking ship that is the Pac 12. Staples: The realignment battle for No. “I’m going to go out in on a limb here and predict that the 2022 back yard brawl will have a higher rating than any regular season ACC conference game last season. MHver3 @MHver3. This happened sometime in the past few days. That’s it. GK is currently trying to Frankenstein a mess of a deal with ESPN getting 1 FB game per week at about $5m per game and 3 BB games per week at about $1m per week. “Looks like we have a new ESPN offer for PAC12. B12 has been told by sources from WSU and Oregon State that they will be submitting applications to the B12 pending how successful the first round of merger talks go. Of course “official sources” are going to downplay the significance of any talks schools have had Witt other conferences BY has allegedly been engaged all evening with 1 particular school to the west. Quote Tweets. FSU is the most attractive maybe. ”“@SHUWalshgym They’d only need to share about 7-8m per each of the 4 schools. It was $24. AZ has not been completely vetted like the other two but since they are current P5 B12 would get Prorata. Retweets. Could also mean ND is rethinking. “As I type this the Arizona schools are discussing exit strategy and AZ is making their case for autonomy to decide conference affiliation (in case they are the only one that gets an invite). Now it’s been twice verified. ”“@JamieExorcistof You are correct. ” Confirming through my B12 contacts that according to what has been shared between BY and a few PAC presidents that CW and ION are indeed in talks for PAC12 broadcasting rights. Quote Tweets. “Let tidbit of the evening: Big12 currently has 20 schools in contact with them regarding membership discussions in various phases of progression. It’s not the B12s fault that we see an opportunity to strengthen ourselves now. If 4 teams get taken from the ACC by the Power 2, there is a good chance FSU is not one of them. Tweet about Oregon and Washington 1,843 Views | 20 Replies | Last: 3 mo ago by historian ScottS 2:44p, 7/27/23 Breaking from my source: Oregon and. Sign up“60 seconds to PACmidnight. PAC media: Hearing that no concrete numbers were presented and that the mystery partner that was coming back to the table was ION. Replying to. Stanford has not applied to the B12 but has reached out to gauge interest. Also the FB CCG. ”BY possibly has a 3rd media partner on board if Fox is a no go for adding $ for new additions. “And the killer for Utah is that even tough they are valued in the top half the one Power conference that they have a shot at may not really want them because they have a school in that market and lower valued schools like AZ are actually higher valued to B12. Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and one other might be. 1. Posted on 37 mins, V I P, User Since 8 months ago, User Post Count: 670. “@vikingburner Seton Hall is no longer an option. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. I don’t normally delete anything. 23. ”Pac voted on SDSU and SMU again. The Big East commissioner ran the conference like a basketball conference and treated football as a second class citizen, which is why Miami, VT, Boston College then WVU, Pitt and Syracuse left. Idea:…Pls tweet what the time will in 5The soon to be PAC defections are “on the precipice” of sealing the deal. A few tidbits I did get:”7:34 PM · Jul 20, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. @MHver3. “@MaynardMtnMan Wasn’t Nebraska a true powerhouse ?”posted by CougarrrsLog in. Oregon was the third choice as a. ”That scenario was floated by Fox. As well as ESPN about triggering the reopening of their contract in the event of additions. Half of that is what espn wants to buy for the B12 network. @MHver3. But it’s looking like B12 needs to make the next move. Amazon gets more first choice. Once again it’s in the media a few days later:. Still waiting on my main source to give me the go ahead to share. I’m being told there will be a Big12 meeting that evening that could potentially have huge ramifications for the Big12 and the college sports landscape in general. ·. ”MHver3 on Twitter: "CU and AZ are NOT worried about exposure by joining B12 as most if their games would be lye window games so that report is most likely coming from Utah or AZSU. “RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. Would need to probably add 6. 2:24 AM · Jul 3, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. SMU especially due to political and religious connotations…table that fwiw. But I would be remiss to not leave a parting gift. Sign upLog in. Replying to. Cliff notes of meetings: Colorado will rejoin the B12. Sign up“Big rumor! Notre Dame has allegedly made the ACC an offer they can’t accept to join that conference in all sports. I was responding to a person that shared an article that AZ was meeting with B12 on Tuesday. Retweets. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. @MHver3 This is the case with any conference not named SEC. @cwishn. ESPN pro-rata is a given. MHver3 @MHver3. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Likely not enough votes there to oust him yet but the cracks are showing. Look for a thread soon. The other two have been flirting with B12 for years and few they are a better fit with B12 in culture and philosophy. 19. Then there’s also the chance that the NY6 bowls all become absorbed into the expanded playoffs as round 1 of a 12 team playoff. ORWA balked because they stand to make more from an uneven distribution model-even if PAC has 2-4 more defections”As I said in a previous tweet: the Buffs are an inevitability. My source says it’s getting more and more likely a prodigal son returns. MHver3. @m_iguel_ca. It was $24. Who stands to benefit the most?“@USFBullTampaBuc They should’ve built these a decade ago. MHver3 @MHver3 ACC source telling me this morning that the school they work for has exhaustively ran the numbers and when compared to the windfall of SEC or B1G tv money the financial risk is outweighed by the future reward. Likes. @MHver3 17h Amazon only wants the top game every week fb and bb from the PAC12 and is offering $100m a year for 2 years with an option for 2 more years and a review of the terms if the viewership is there. We’ve spoiled schools with Tier3 independence. 8 of them are Power5 schools located west of Texas. ConversationWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 2.